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I thought the last paragraph was

important in the outake. The idea that backing torture would make people ‘all in‘. Isn‘t that what Hitler did with the final solution.....Nazis had no choice but to fight as Nazis to the very death. Turning millions into monsters. There would be no going back. I wonder if Cheney had that in mind.

May this divide between tea partiers and other republicans

is why all of a sudden Republicans claim "I'm not a scientist" when asked the question, as a way to avoid answering and coming down on one side or the other. An anti-wedge.

So the GOP finally faces a 'Sophie's Choice' from the Democrats. After the GOP shoving Sophie's

Choices (a choice where your life is diminished no matter what you decide) in the faces of Democrats for more than a decade like a psychopaths would, Obama gives the GOP a choice: support his immigration reform or denounce it.

No wonder Michelle Bachman says the GOP will remain silent on the issue. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/11/22/Michelle%20Bachmann-GOP-Will-Not-Resist-Obama-Executive-Amnesty

I seem to have picked up a lot of conservative stories today from reddit. I guess the GOP never lets the perpetual campaign ebb, not even on thanksgiving weekend.

There is a good start to a discussion.

CNN and nicholas kristof have said some pretty important things. But mostly a generation of black kids have the events of the last few years to remind them that they are valued. That people will fight for them. And that will give them wings in their own lives. You just watch. Martyrs will do that. Look at how JFK inspired a generation of liberals. These events of the last few years where mere kids get into situations that are way to complicated situations for kids to be involved in.. this has and will inspire change in the country. People have the internet today so they talk about what they want for as long as they want. These events will not die due to the end of the news cycle. Much has changed already. I look forward to a Mike Brown law where police wear digital cameras. Demonstrations are now managed with shades of grey, not in black or white rules. Demonstrations are dynamic in nature and need to be treated that way.

Bingo! Reading "Sapiens" by Yuval Noah Harari. "A brief history of humankind".

He goes into capitalism where he talks about credit being a bank's belief in someone or trust that there will be growth in the future. And how that trust developed. And resulted in more and more credit. The pie kept getting bigger over 500 years, especially in the West. With the banks believing that the people they loan to will have more money into the future.

And that got me thinking. Well now all the growth of the pie goes to the 1%. None of it goes to the middle class. Or the poor. Their pie slices are the same size or shrinking. The trust has been broken between the banks and the middle class. But the 1% keep raking in the dough.....all the while complaining that they have been put upon.

And it seems that banks really are not focussed on the 99%. As I posted yesterday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/11/bank-regulation-profits_n_6140510.html

It is more than that. Psychopaths often do a 180 degree tell where they project their

feelings and actions on their victim. In this case it is the GOP who will do anything for money/power. Scientists are the first people to admit they don't have all the answers and come up with hypothesis which they test again and again. They discard much. They only keep what proves beyond a doubt to be true. The GOP, like psychopaths, always claim they have the perfect information as they roll along making up fiction to fit the desired outcome they want. The two do not belong in the same buildings let alone any political equivalency.

You are right. I skimmed over that. Still...

white men's rights are the new focus of the GOP in the United states and their followers around the world. They do all speak with the same tongue. I know, I'm in Canada and the GOP created a whole think tank here called "the Calgary School" that produced our current prime minister. In this case it is the right wing spreading its new propaganda. That men are victims. It is a virus of the mind. To wedge men to the right. Right now they, the world over, are trying to create a grievance in men that can then be used to control them. What man has not felt sexually frustrated in his lifetime. Especially as a teen. Bingo! I am surprised at how far their tentacles have gone. But this is a trend in language and grievances. Poor men. Poor, poor men. Only the right wing understands.

Fareed Zakaria: "Muslims Are Right To Complain That There Is Anti-Muslim Bigotry"

Fareed Zakaria: "Muslims Are Right To Complain That There Is Anti-Muslim Bigotry"

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/10/27/fareed_zakaria_muslims_are_right_to_complain_that_there_is_anti-muslim_bigotry.html

"SNIP....................


(the two Canadian jihadists and the one in new York this week) These are not people steeped in Islam, people for whom the religion shaped their world view over decades. People who were motivated by their immersion in the religion. On the contrary, these were unstable young men prone to radicalism and violence. They were searching for an ideology that would fit their disturbed world view, and in the radical and jihadi interpretations of Islam, they found it.

It's always worth remembering that these people represent a tiny minority. Think of it this way. Terror groups like ISIS and al Qaeda have been calling on Muslims to engage in terrorism in Western cities for over 10 years now. Of 1.6 billion Muslims worldwide, the number who have responded to these calls is a small, small, small percentage. If all Muslims were radicals, we would have more than three to worry about this week.

And yet, there is a problem within Islam. It's not enough for Muslims to point out that these people do not represent the religion. They don't. But Muslims need to take more active measures to protest these heinous acts. They also need to make sure that Muslim countries and societies do not in any way condone extremism, anti-modern attitudes, and intolerance towards other faiths.

Muslims are right to complain that there is anti-Muslim bigotry out there, but they would have a more persuasive case if they took on some of the bigotry within the world of Islam as well.


.......................SNIP"

Many conservatives are people who don't like 'cheaters' and 'those who break the law'.

That is in their minds. A certain percentage of the population. The GOP has co-opted those people with their law and order agenda as well as painting the poor as welfare queens and such. And they have to keep feeding them stories about the 'cheaters' to keep them engaged with the Republican party. No wonder these people are paranoid. It is as it was planned. They take something in the minds of their base, rework their party to harness it, and repeat and repeat the narrative that they are being cheated. Now the paranoia extends to Obama who is actually trying to make life better for them and has succeeded in many ways (the economy, health care) with no help from the right wing congress. No wonder voters fear they are alone. They are alone: not allowed to connect to Obama, and led by the GOP who just uses them. They are alone. They should be afraid. Just not of Obama.

Obama lost the white male vote after the Henry Louis Gates

arrest incident http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Louis_Gates_arrest_controversy

Bill Maher did a new rule rant about pandering to the white vote. Got me thinking? What euphemism for "don't be sensitive about white people being racist" can we use to change the hearts of white republicans who live in a world where they do not wrong? Maybe something aspirational?

Obama uses "we're all in this together". He used "hope and change".

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