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Hello, Dear FrenchieCat!



Thanks for the link on him. Just gets better with all I'm reading. (dial-up warning)





The 'personal counselors' enabled by Scalia. This is a direct result of that ruling. It reminds me

of two Coptic Christian friends who moved here because of what the MB was doing years ago in Cairo, Egypt.

One was a university professor, the other a medical doctor. They were harassed by young students at their office, at home, in their classroom and on the streets to convert to the one true faith. Lie or die.

They finally left after their refusal to give up the faith of their ancestors, begging their tormentors to let them live in peace and using common sense and reason failed. They had not spoken out publicly, but were harrassed simply because they would not lie and show the outward signs of conversion demanded. Make no mistake, the Flip Benhams of this world want people to lie to survive, just as millions in Europe and elsewhere who converted at the point of a sword. Lie or die.

Their pleas had only made them a target of the zealots on an individual level and they gave up the land their families lived in for millenia. They are some of the most forgiving, gentle and generous souls I have ever met.

That is what the Koch and others want for America. They would allow no freedom in the most intimate of matters, the most important, that of the mind. They ae getting into truly sacred territory, from which all other human interactions flow, to pollute them by enforcing Lie or die.

They're strictly against the intent of the Founders who sought to separate church from state for the good of all. They have plenty of CTers making stuff abut the Founders being 'satanists.' This is common rhetoric and that is what they are in reality attacking.

No doubt the Benham group does know about the Founding Fathers:



Natural law was the basis for the core ideas of the Revolution: People are free and equal in nature. Government is a compact between human beings, not something handed down from above.

Most important, we must always have the liberty of thought to examine received wisdom, evaluate its utility, and change our ideas — and our institutions.


In particular this part:

People are free and equal in nature.


Got a chuckle from this:

"Jefferson's vision for the future of American religion … featured nothing but Unitarian churches from sea to shining sea."

A better America than one divided into various cults with their supporters and enemies. Very close to what I grew up with in my home and community and even in the Baptist church.

From the first Amazon review, but all of them are very good:


“Splendid… imaginative but never fanciful, even at its most surprising. What lends Nature’s God a good deal of its verve is Matthew Stewart’s unabashed attachment not only to the revolutionaries as they really were but to the skeptical rationalism they embodied. This is partisan scholarship as it should be written, and much needed service to the public.” (Alan Ryan, author of The Making of Modern Liberalism)

http://www.amazon.com/Natures-God-Heretical-American-Republic/dp/0393064549/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1404062887&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=Nature%27s+God%3A+The+Heretical+Origins+of+the+American+Republic

to cbayer for posting about the book:

http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/1218137537#op

The Supreme Court and conservatives are trying to write their regressive beliefs in stone and destabilize the USA for a reasonl and it's not God. It'll be a long haul to reverse this starting in 2014. We must put reactionaries out of office or we're done.

Mussolini's method included religion to give fascists the zeal to force changes on society and end democracy. Kathleen Harris did what she did in 2000 for religious zeal. But the truth is, just as it was in Italy, it's about economics, not God or the Holy Spirit. It's the face of corporatist 'christianity.'They use the flag and God as their cover and must be outted.


These fascist weasels fired this man?



What makes Demoulas so popular?


"He takes care of people, he cares more about people than money, he walks among associates and customers," Tom Trainor, an employee of 41 years who was fired Sunday for his role in the protests, told Business Insider. "He knows your name, your wife's name, your husband's name, what school your kids go to."

Trainor rose from bagger to district supervisor during his career at Market Basket.


He said that Demoulas is a great businessman, doubling profits in his eight years as CEO of the company.


"If associate or member of their family was seriously ill, he would personally make sure they received proper medical care," Trainor said. "He went more than the extra mile."

"He shook hands, he attended store openings, he was proud of what everyone accomplished instead of taking credit for himself," Pamela DeSantis White, whose father worked at Market Basket for more than 40 years, told Business Insider.


The dismantling of the fabric of our lives and communities for no good reason must end unless we want to live like feral dogs. Apparently, some think that is the new way to go, with their dog eat dog mentality.

A little more in the way of pictures and details:

At rally, Market Basket workers urged to take protests to stores

Erin Ailworth - July 21, 2014



TEWKSBURY — Yellow caution tape tied to overturned Market Basket carriages cordoned off the wide swath of parking lot at Stadium Plaza where thousands of protestors gathered to call for the return of ousted grocery chain president Arthur T. Demoulas. They waved signs, tooted horns, and cheered in support of the executive, who was fired in late June.

Monday’s rally came a day after eight senior employees, several of them organizers of the protest campaign, were terminated from their jobs...


Democrats were among those who showed their support:

Other speakers included Democratic state senators Barry R. Finegold of Andover and Eileen M. Donoghue of Lowell, who are among 35 state lawmakers who have signed a letter calling for a boycott of Market Basket.

“You are what is good about America,” Donoghue told the crowd. “We are going to stand with you, we are going to fight with you.”

The protests and the firings are the latest development in a remarkable public dispute over leadership of the grocery chain, which has 71 stores in Massachusetts, Maine, and New Hampshire. On Friday, about 2,000 people gathered at the chain’s headquarters in Tewksbury to support the ousted president. Workers are demanding the return of Arthur T. Demoulas, who was fired in late June by a board controlled by his cousin and chief rival, Arthur S. Demoulas. For decades, the two have feuded over control of the company, which was started by their grandfather...


Many more details at the link:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2014/07/21/thousands-rally-outside-market-basket-store-for-ousted-ceo/CHFjzEFVhVDKmqYIneb3hP/story.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025273477#post2

That was the first I heard of this, but the writer didn't have a link yet, so I googled and posted that to help out.

Although this is my favorite thread so far, because it gives faces and shows the good that can be done in real life. Thanks for posting it!

The images were excellent! (Dial-up Warning - Pic Heavy)



Didn't know Wile E Coyote was GOP, but on second thought...



KKKing doing his job, 'Keeping the light on' for bigots...



Puzzled people on a picnic...



Double

At rally, Market Basket workers urged to take protests to stores

Erin Ailworth - July 21, 2014



TEWKSBURY — Yellow caution tape tied to overturned Market Basket carriages cordoned off the wide swath of parking lot at Stadium Plaza where thousands of protestors gathered to call for the return of ousted grocery chain president Arthur T. Demoulas. They waved signs, tooted horns, and cheered in support of the executive, who was fired in late June.

Monday’s rally came a day after eight senior employees, several of them organizers of the protest campaign, were terminated from their jobs...


Democrats were among those who showed their support:

Other speakers included Democratic state senators Barry R. Finegold of Andover and Eileen M. Donoghue of Lowell, who are among 35 state lawmakers who have signed a letter calling for a boycott of Market Basket.

“You are what is good about America,” Donoghue told the crowd. “We are going to stand with you, we are going to fight with you.”

The protests and the firings are the latest development in a remarkable public dispute over leadership of the grocery chain, which has 71 stores in Massachusetts, Maine, and New Hampshire. On Friday, about 2,000 people gathered at the chain’s headquarters in Tewksbury to support the ousted president. Workers are demanding the return of Arthur T. Demoulas, who was fired in late June by a board controlled by his cousin and chief rival, Arthur S. Demoulas. For decades, the two have feuded over control of the company, which was started by their grandfather...


Many more details at the link:

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2014/07/21/thousands-rally-outside-market-basket-store-for-ousted-ceo/CHFjzEFVhVDKmqYIneb3hP/story.html

Workers are revolting against the CEO and store managers being fired. This will affect a lot of stores. Hope the win against the actions taken by the owners...

Americans would say the same thing. Very well expressed and shows a good heart:

"In our country there are a lot of good people who love other people. Forgive us for all the rest."

Thanks for adding that.

'Ponzi scheme' Koch meme. 'Shell game' GOP meme since SS began.

None of it is either, unless the public does not believe in it. The method is from Segretti, and used to make people give up.

We either believe in keeping our promises to each other and ourselves and take on the responsiblity, or we run from it. We can participate, or we can stay on the side lines and accuse those doing the work as stupid, lazy, weak, ineffective or even dishonest.

But who is really being those things?

It always looks to me like the plantation owner who beat a slave when he didn't do things fast enough for the owner, (not for the worker, but the overseer, which carries through with where I'm going here) but work the overseer would never lower himself to do, or was incapable of doing.

Sound familiar?

The job of being a political activist is humbling personally. It can be risky socially, physically and financially. It is often unpopular, thankless in the short term and very unpleasant. Although the reward in the end is great, even if those doing gain little or nothing, for the ones who follow. The work for the worker is the work itself, not the opinion of the overseer.

It is cynicism that is bitter and lazy, wants instant gratification, just as the GOP and the Libertarians promise. They always see their thinking as superior for they have leisure to think, the confidence from no opposition in their face in politics, and not forced to work with adversaries. So they can remain blissfully pure.

To reject working positively for change leads to the same thing as the RW believes. And the result of always seeing everything in B&W, so awful and hopeless, allows one to feel justified at adopting the 'it's every man for himself' route and fall into selfishness. The negativity is used to explain why they are willing to stand by and let all burn, while they or others devouring the basic means for change like termites.

It's a win-win for those who accuse and refuse to honor the worker who is doing the job they wouldn't or couldn't do anyway. Mouths are kept happily busy and hearts are proud, but the hands doing the jobs are few, easy to take potshots at as they are busy working as they are confined to one thing, becoming a slow moving target and too busy to fight the disrespect.

Have you ever had a job like that?

I sure have. And I've not forgotten those who didn't know what how hard I or others worked, which they later learned and were amazed at what was accomplished, as they'd been busy sniping for the win. They do not have the capacity to be allies in a cause, to suffer in silence and be humble while getting the work done, because they took the cheap way to feel big, and didn't do a damn thing for anything but their own ego no matter how many words they use for cover.

It's a nasty little game being played and it's purely human and easy to feel that one is the winner. But we all lose by listening to these voices.

JMHO, 1SBM.

BREAKING NEWS: Lady Liberty requests repatriation to France:



"Enough is enough," the iconic, French-born resident who arrived in New York Harbor on June 19, 1885 was quoted as saying.

"The Republican Party now dominates the United States and is against all liberty and equality, wanting to turn this country into what we fought the Revolution in France to end.

They now proclaim that critical thinking skills and principles of the Enlightenment, which inspired my adopted homeland for generations, will no longer be taught in any school or allowed a voice.

Now they are even mocking the words with which I greeted over 20 million desperate emigrants to America. I'm leaving as soon as I can pack up and go."

The Republican Party spokesperson Wash Rinse Repeat Priebus then responded to the announcement by saying the French were never our allies and that the GOP would renew their calls to rid the USA of French influences.

He singled out French fries, French onion soup, French champagne, French perfume and other socialist and 'unmanly' products to restore America to its former greatness.

He then proposed crowning Charles Koch as the First King of America, sending women home to be kept barefoot and pregnant, and the resumption of the global slave trade to end unemployment benefits to save the economy.

"When wages are at the correct level, we have been promised that capital will once again return to these shores," he said.

The reform plan was quickly seized upon by all major media sources and will be enacted next year, said Priebus, who will be employed as official court jester.


More at the link:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=journals&uid=265673

An Anonymous quote (not Anonymous©) agrees with you:

Misery is easy to create. It's the tool of the maliciously lazy.

Happiness takes work, it is the reward for a life being well lived. Make the choice to not let others steal your hard earned joy.

~ Anonymous

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