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Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:28 PM

Penn State's football program is toast.

Thanks to Sandusky the pervert and the "Win at all costs" mentality that covered up for the pervert all those years.

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Reply Penn State's football program is toast. (Original post)
Archae Jun 2012 OP
Ishoutandscream2 Jun 2012 #1
aquart Jun 2012 #4
sadbear Jun 2012 #2
GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #16
Motown_Johnny Jun 2012 #18
southernyankeebelle Jun 2012 #3
Posteritatis Jun 2012 #5
alphafemale Jun 2012 #6
russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #8
DinahMoeHum Jun 2012 #9
11 Bravo Jun 2012 #21
rhett o rick Jun 2012 #14
Joe the Revelator Jun 2012 #7
WilliamPitt Jun 2012 #10
jimlup Jun 2012 #11
taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #12
Zanzoobar Jun 2012 #13
progressoid Jun 2012 #15
undeterred Jun 2012 #19
Posteritatis Jun 2012 #24
GeorgeGist Jun 2012 #17
Are_grits_groceries Jun 2012 #20
DefenseLawyer Jun 2012 #22
KurtNYC Jun 2012 #23

Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:33 PM

1. Archae, I think it will come back

But it will take a while.

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Response to Ishoutandscream2 (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:37 PM

4. Six months? A year?

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:35 PM

2. It will be in the best interest of the expanded Big Ten (what do they call themselves now?)

that Penn St. remain a competitive team. I'm talking about money, and for that reason, I don't think they'll be toast for long.

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Response to sadbear (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 07:47 AM

16. Re: your aside. They're morphing away from Big10 but to what I don't know.

I think they outta go with Big10+.

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #16)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 07:53 AM

18. I think "Mid West 12" would be closer.


"Big" is meaningless.


Yes, you can argue that Penn. State isn't really in the mid west but it is more accurate than going with "10" when you have 12 schools in the conference. The same could be said for the University of Nebraska-Lincoln but my point still stands.

The conferences are regional in nature and it makes sense to name them that way.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:35 PM

3. How sad that a once great organization has been so hurt by what went on. They should

 

be out of play for at least 2 or 3 yrs.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:41 PM

5. Perhaps Penn State should have thought of that a few years ago. (nt)

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:44 PM

6. I really don't see why those young guys who have trained all their lives should be punished.

It was the sins of one pervert and some enablers. They had nothing to do with that.

Only if all of them can me taken into other top notch schools on whatever scholarships they had.

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Response to alphafemale (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:51 PM

8. Collateral damage.

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Response to alphafemale (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:51 PM

9. True enough. They should have the option of transferring

to other schools without penalty by the NCAA.

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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #9)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 10:33 AM

21. Have you ever dealt with the NCAA? My oldest son is a college baseball player, and I guarantee ...

you that the NCAA doesn't give a flying fuck about the athletes. It is all about the money.
(He hit .675 as a high school senior, with an even dozen home runs. In college he is no longer allowed to use the bat he used in high school because the school has a contract with a different manufacturer. He had a good year, hitting .406, but he tells me that he still doesn't feel comfortable with the new stick.)

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Response to alphafemale (Reply #6)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:49 PM

14. They have options. nm

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:45 PM

7. PSU football isn't going anywhere.

Don't kid yourself.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 10:51 PM

10. Penn State football will be fine.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:28 PM

11. Wrong conclusion

Hopefully some small gains against a society that has allowed people like Sandusky to thrive. But football - nope the two are not the same and they are not related.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:31 PM

12. LOIC

if this isn't Lack of Institutional Control... then I don't know what is.

USC received 2 year bowl ban and 30 scholie losses for ONE player taking benefits from a wannabe agent. Penn State deserves 10 year bowl ban and 1,000 scholarship losses. They deserve the death penalty.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Fri Jun 22, 2012, 11:37 PM

13. Poor Joe is daid

 

Ahem... LALALALALA!

I'm ready....

Pore Joe is daid
Pore Joe Pa is daid,
He's lookin' oh so peaceful and serene
He's all laid out to rest
With his hands acrost his chest
His fingernails have never been so clean!

Pore Joe is Daid, a candle lights his haid!
He's lookin' oh so purty and so nice
He looks like he's asleep,
It's a shame that he won't keep
But it's summer and we're running out of ice.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 01:51 AM

15. I don't give a shit about their football program.

10 boys (that we know of) and 45 counts of child sexual abuse.

Their football program can rot for all I care.

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Response to progressoid (Reply #15)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 08:02 AM

19. + a brazillion

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Response to progressoid (Reply #15)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 10:55 AM

24. Yep. (nt)

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 07:50 AM

17. I expect they will get PR people ...

to exploit the sympathy card. Afterall, their beloved JoePa is still dead.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 08:06 AM

20. The NCAA has to make a ruling.

They would probably rather eat ground glass than handle this.
They have been saying that they would wait for the court case to be resolved. They usually stick their noses in anyway, but this was so big and serious that it was probably better that they waited.

Now we will see. They could say that Paterno is dead, Sandusky is in jail, and the rest is really administrative matter. I don't think that will fly in light of the testimony about so many coaches 'not seeing' what they saw.

Talk about lack of institutional control. That usually brings down a hammer.

I hope they lower the boom and clear that FB staff out. Too many people still there have been around forever.
They may say that it's not fair to the players. Well boo hoo! That didn't matter when it came to SMU.

This is such an egregious and horrible mess that they better act. BUT PSU has a lot of clout in a lot of areas.



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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 10:44 AM

22. Sandusky had been retired for years

Yeah the whole thing is a black eye for everyone involved, but it's hard to see any NCAA violations for the current program.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Sat Jun 23, 2012, 10:53 AM

23. They are so much better off without Sandusky but I hope this verdict and

next, the sentencing, will wake up other corrupt institutions. I really think others in the Penn State admin should have been charged because this horror went on for 15 years and in the showers on Penn State's campus no less.

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