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Response to Bucky (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 04:52 PM

14. Seems you've been listening to Right wing talking points

Which are wrong.

There are no "natural rights," nor are there "inalienable rights" as people have said, and I've seen said around here. (even though it says it in the declaration doesn't make it true)

We derive "rights" from the people forming a government and charging the government to protect those rights.

Other countries have decided they don't want to have those sorts of rights, so they don't. As an example, you can be charged with hate speech in most countries in Europe. the NAZI party is also outlawed in germany, for instance. you couldn't do that in the States.

for most of human history, most people didn't have those rights, and a lot of people still don't, China for example. Most Muslim countries you can be charged with blasphemy.

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